AZ

Grayhawk

North Scottsdale golf community with a mix of single-family homes, patio homes and condominiums.

Two sides to Grayhawk, and you need to know which one you want

Grayhawk sits in north Scottsdale, north of the 101 between Scottsdale Road and Pima. There are nearly 3,800 homes in it, running from condominiums and townhomes through single-family homes to golf-course property.

Before you look at anything, understand this: Grayhawk is two neighborhoods, not one. The Park and The Retreat. Almost everything that matters here follows from which of the two a home sits in.

The Retreat is the guard-gated side, wrapped around the Raptor and Talon courses. You pass a staffed gate, the streets inside are private, and several neighborhoods within it have gates of their own on top of that.

The Park has no guard gate at its entrance. Plenty of its single-family homes you simply drive up to, with no gate anywhere in the journey.

The condominiums are their own story. Pretty much every condominium and townhome community in Grayhawk is gated in its own right, on both sides. That is a code at a gate around one community, which is a different thing from a staffed entry to a whole village, and the two cost differently and feel differently. So when someone tells me they want a gated home in Grayhawk, my first question is which kind of gate they actually mean.

That difference changes the feel, the price and, as you will see below, what you pay in dues every year. A search filtered on Grayhawk and a price range will hand you homes from both sides that have very little in common.

The neighborhoods inside each

Both sides break down further, and the names matter because this is how listings are described.

In The Park, the single-family neighborhoods are Coventry at Grayhawk, Coventry at the Park, Featherwind, Monterey Park, Montevina, Pinnacle at Grayhawk, Ridgecrest and Windsong. There are also six condominium and townhome communities: The Edge, Encore, Tesoro at Grayhawk, The Venu, Village at Grayhawk and Vintage.

In The Retreat, behind the gate, you have Avante, Crown Point, Crown Point Norte, Firenze, Halcon Villas, Halcon Vistas, Los Vientos, Monterey Retreat, Peregrine Villas, Peregrine Vistas, Renaissance, Serenity, Talon Fairways, Talon Point and Volare. Two condominium communities sit inside the gate as well: Avian at Grayhawk and Cachet at Grayhawk.

That is a lot of names, and you do not need to memorize them. What you need is someone who knows which ones suit what you are after, because the difference between two of them is frequently larger than the difference between two neighborhoods with different names elsewhere in Scottsdale.

The dues come in four layers, and this is where people get caught

This is the most useful thing I can tell you about Grayhawk, and it is the thing buyers most often get wrong.

There is no single Grayhawk HOA figure. Assessments come in four separate categories, and how many of them apply to you depends entirely on the home.

The master assessment. Everybody in Grayhawk pays this one, quarterly, whether they are in a house or a condominium. It covers the greenbelts, the hiking and biking trails, pocket parks, playgrounds, walls and fences, the monument signs, common area utilities, round-the-clock patrol, on-site management and reserves.

The Retreat Village assessment. This one applies only to homes inside the gate, and it sits on top of the master. It pays for the gate staff and the gate itself, the private streets, sidewalks, street sweeping, the landscaping specific to The Retreat, and its tennis courts.

A sub-association assessment. For the eight condominium and townhome neighborhoods, paid monthly to a separate management company rather than quarterly with the rest.

A neighborhood assessment. Some neighborhoods have their own pool, spa or tennis court, and the people who use them pay for them.

Stack those up and you can see how it adds. Avian and Cachet sit inside the gate and are condominiums, so those owners pay the master, the Retreat Village assessment and their own sub-association. Three bills, for one home.

The question to ask is never what the Grayhawk HOA costs. It is what the total annual assessment is on that specific address, and what each part of it buys. The figures change, so I pull the current ones before you write an offer rather than after.

Golf, parks and the trails

Grayhawk Golf Club is a large part of the community's identity, and here is the part that distinguishes it from a neighborhood like DC Ranch: both courses are public. You do not have to belong to a private club to play them. For a golfer who does not want a membership commitment, that is frequently the deciding factor.

They are not throwaway municipal courses either. Raptor was designed by Tom Fazio. Talon came from David Graham, a former US Open and PGA champion, working with architect Gary Panks. The clubhouse runs to 40,000 square feet, and the Fairway House beside it is a 7,200 square foot event space used for weddings and receptions.

Beyond the golf, the master community maintains landscaped walking and biking trails, greenbelts, pocket parks and playgrounds, which is what a good part of your master assessment is buying.

The City of Scottsdale also runs two public parks inside Grayhawk. Grayhawk Neighborhood Park has baseball fields, basketball, sand volleyball, tennis, soccer, a playground and a ramada. Thompson Peak Park has basketball, pickleball, softball fields and a playground. Public parks inside a master-planned community are not a given, and they carry no membership and no extra assessment.

Where you shop and eat

One of the quieter advantages here is that you are not driving fifteen minutes for milk.

Hayden Peak Crossing, at Thompson Peak Parkway and Hayden, is anchored by a Fry's and has restaurants, shops and everyday services around it. Grayhawk Plaza, at Grayhawk Drive and Scottsdale Road, is a second cluster of dining and retail.

The golf club itself has three places to eat, and you do not need to be playing to use them: Quill Creek Restaurant and Grill, which looks over the Raptor course and the McDowells, Isabella's Kitchen for American Italian, and the Morning Joint for coffee from six in the morning. Pure Sushi and Chula Seafood are close by as well.

Then there is the position. Kierland Commons and Scottsdale Quarter are both a short drive south on Scottsdale Road, and each carries more than seventy shops, restaurants and places to spend an evening. Market Street at DC Ranch is close to the east. Few north Scottsdale communities have that much within ten minutes.

Buying or selling in Grayhawk

If you are selling here, the first job is working out who you are actually competing with. A single-family home in The Park is not competing with a home behind the gate in The Retreat, and neither is comparable to a condominium at Avian, Cachet or Village at Grayhawk. Treating Grayhawk as one market is how a home gets priced wrong in either direction. Here is how I work out a real number, and this is what runs on a listing.

If you are buying, the first conversation is gated or not gated, and then what you want your annual costs to look like once all the assessments are counted. Those two answers narrow nearly 3,800 homes down to something you can actually look at in a weekend. How buying works in Arizona is here.

Most people looking at Grayhawk are looking at DC Ranch and McDowell Mountain Ranch at the same time, so those are worth reading alongside this.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is Grayhawk gated?

Partly, and there are two kinds of gate. The Retreat is guard-gated, with a staffed entry and private streets around the Raptor and Talon courses, and several neighborhoods inside it are gated again. The Park has no guard gate at its entrance and many of its single-family homes have no gate at all. Separately, pretty much every condominium and townhome community in Grayhawk is gated in its own right, on both sides.

What are the HOA dues in Grayhawk?

There is no single figure, and that is the important part. Assessments come in four categories: a master assessment everyone pays, a Retreat Village assessment for homes inside the gate, a monthly sub-association assessment for the eight condominium and townhome communities, and a neighborhood assessment where a neighborhood has its own pool, spa or tennis court. Ask what the total is for the specific address.

Why do some Grayhawk homes have much higher dues than others?

Because the assessments stack. Avian and Cachet are condominiums inside the gate, so those owners pay the master assessment, the Retreat Village assessment and their own sub-association. A single-family home in The Park pays the master and possibly a neighborhood assessment. Same community, very different annual cost.

Do I need a club membership to play Grayhawk Golf Club?

No. Both Grayhawk courses are public, which sets the community apart from neighborhoods where the course sits behind a private club. Raptor is a Tom Fazio design and Talon came from David Graham and Gary Panks, so public here does not mean second rate. If you want to golf without a membership commitment, that is frequently why people choose Grayhawk.

Are there public parks in Grayhawk?

Yes, two, run by the City of Scottsdale. Grayhawk Neighborhood Park has baseball, basketball, sand volleyball, tennis, soccer, a playground and a ramada. Thompson Peak Park has basketball, pickleball, softball and a playground. Neither carries a membership or an extra assessment.